Boeing's China Problem

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  • Published: 10 September 2019
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    References:
    [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR?locations=CN
    [2] https://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Documents/TopTenPaxMarkets_graph.pdf
    [3] https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3024610/you-can-buy-russias-putin-pitches-su-57-stealth-jets
    [4] https://skift.com/2019/01/08/boeing-edges-airbus-to-stay-worlds-biggest-commercial-aircraft-manufacturer/
    [5] https://s2.q4cdn.com/661678649/files/doc_financials/annual/2019/Boeing-2018AR-Final.pdf
    [6] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/boeing-stock-all-time-high-on-china-demand-production-acceleration.html
    [7] https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-AIRPLANE/010091341G7/index.html
    [8] https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/283437/what-routes-does-the-boeing-737-max-8-fly/
    [9] https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/09/airbus--china-assembly-facility-marks-10-years-of-quality-manufa.html
    [10] https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-and-its-737-max-jets-have-a-china-problem-11554904340
    [11] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/business/china-boeing.html
    [12] https://www.apnews.com/88d5235d2107400680d8b0870d30d218
    [13] https://www.marketplace.org/2019/02/11/ceo-americas-biggest-exporter-manufacturing-america-doing-business/
    [14] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/airbus-is-said-to-seal-long-awaited-aircraft-order-from-china
    [15] https://www.mhi.com/news/story/190625.html
    [16] https://ukranews.com/en/news/612803-antonov-planning-to-resume-production-of-an-148-an-158-and-an-178-planes-in-2019
    [17] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/china-comac-919-new-plane-ryanair/

Comments • 2 956

  • 74KU
    74KU  1 hours back

    The World's China Problem.

    • Findyification
      Findyification  3 hours back

      FAA get paid by boeing its useless now

      • Mr. Showers
        Mr. Showers  3 hours back

        Parachutes not included...

        • Teacher Chris
          Teacher Chris  4 hours back

          All manufacturing must be done in US; otherwise, the CCP's CAAC will sabotage production and ground planes then sue and cripple Boeing meanwhile the CCP steals the IP and makes these counterfeit planes and shoddy parts themselves.
          The world can't afford an out of control overpopulated country like China to continue profiting from polluting, stealing, lying, infiltrating civilized democratized god-fearing nations like US.

          • Mr. Showers
            Mr. Showers  4 hours back

            I am predicting the weather. "Todays forcast is showers closely followed by Chinese made aircraft...."

            • Mark Moses
              Mark Moses  5 hours back

              That will stop guarantee it

              • Matlockization
                Matlockization  5 hours back

                The Chinese have always been a problem to do trade with.

                • p D
                  p D  7 hours back

                  Boeing is a stupid company. They did not know who they are working with.

                  • David Bardavidi
                    David Bardavidi  7 hours back

                    Chinese will dump boeing due to the National security risk it poses to non-US nations as soon as their capabilities are in Sync.........Boeing is too involved in Arms manufacturing not to be involved in spying and Info. Extracting operations.......After all no one company in US has the Power to regulates itself unless involved in Covert ops.............The relationship of Boeing and the Defense dept. is too close and highly risky for any major Nation not to pay attention to...........Chinese might be Friendly and Diplomatic but would not take them for Naivity.........Selah

                    • Mia DoubleZeroSeven
                      Mia DoubleZeroSeven  8 hours back

                      The “cheap” always becomes expensive. Thanks to the greed of corporations; America has decimated its manufacturing, transferred its wealth & handed over their blueprints...all whilst crushing the middle class.
                      They were outplayed. SMH

                      • sushi777300
                        sushi777300  8 hours back

                        The FAA failed to keep its leading role because it tried to protect Boeing and ignored the evidence

                        • mitchell wood
                          mitchell wood  8 hours back

                          i got bored.. opened up porn.. jerked off... allt he while this guys blabbering in the back ground... looked at my facebook.. then realized I had this playing in the background the whole time for the past 9 minutes and completely forget about fucking boeing or china.

                          • Stefan Adamcik
                            Stefan Adamcik  9 hours back

                            Look at that Whore, Macron. What a perfect prostitute he is, smiling, while he has that Chinese cock in his mouth. Making eye contact while he sucks, and all. So good.What does he charge for an hour?

                            • The Foreigner
                              The Foreigner  9 hours back

                              Airbus is better anyway. Boeing is over rated and over priced.

                              • Stewie Griffin
                                Stewie Griffin  10 hours back

                                wham watching whis

                                • Aaron Moreno
                                  Aaron Moreno  10 hours back

                                  I think the lyrics are a bit dull for a hot-button Swing song, but the bass line is killer!

                                  • IETCHX69
                                    IETCHX69  11 hours back

                                    self 323

                                    • Erwin Rommel
                                      Erwin Rommel  12 hours back

                                      boeings biggest competitor is the 3rd camera on the iPhone 11

                                      • sailorashore
                                        sailorashore  12 hours back

                                        Boeings production is now out-scourced since the move to Obamas' Chicago ..it it a different company..

                                        • Lost Poet
                                          Lost Poet  12 hours back

                                          COMAC was charged with copying the A320 and 737 without the benefit of experience with design and manufacturing regulations or the tribal knowledge of Boeing or Airbus. Historically Chinese corporations seem to expect regulations to adapt to their needs which fails to work in a world regulated market such as aviation. This will require a massive shift in thinking at COMAC and a willingness to adapt to the realities of the rest of the world. It is a significant accomplishment that they have produced a prototype C919 that has even flown but this falls decades short of Chinas stated goal to mass produce an FAA or EASA Type Certificated aircraft for the world market. Unfortunately for Chinas world stage ambitions the C919 may be be delayed long enough to be out of date. Uncertified outside of China the C919 if produced at all will exist only in small numbers. The odds are China will eventually get commercial aircraft manufacturing right but the rest of the world sees the obvious need for huge cultural and intellectual evolution. These changes may require generations to accomplish and cannot just be willed into place by government decree.

                                          • powerone1
                                            powerone1  12 hours back

                                            You can not deal with China using free market principles. You have to look at any large company as being the Chinese government. Tariffs are a very important tool to use. Never allow Chinese products to be sold in the US at a lower cost then what products manufactured in the US can be purchased at.

                                            • Rishav
                                              Rishav  12 hours back

                                              why does china need planes when they have trains?

                                              • James L
                                                James L  13 hours back

                                                Brilliant vid !!

                                                • Magnus Juul
                                                  Magnus Juul  14 hours back

                                                  Funny how when china actually makes "their own" plane, it's just a ripoff off a european plane. They really have zero innovative capabilities what-so-ever. I don't get why western countries still keep pouring money into china, when they'll just become our greatest competitor in a 100 years or so

                                                  • sophon block
                                                    sophon block  12 hours back

                                                    Why western countries still keep investing into China? The same reason Boeing made a crap passenger plane 737Max, because they want to earn more with spending less. However China nowadays produce better products with cheaper prices. China is becoming the new Japan, superior technology development that becomes better and better. Actually WE, the consumers benefit from this. The ones are crying are the 1% filthy rich, and I am not sorry for them,. for too long they cheated our money with overpriced products and getting it made with slave wage labor.

                                                • Ken Kir
                                                  Ken Kir  15 hours back

                                                  Why is China buying so many planes? Well capital chases assets, and right now China has a capitalization bubble. What will China do to those planes? Probably sell most of them at a loss in 5 years. China is fast becoming japan 1984 2.0

                                                  • Jamy Chong
                                                    Jamy Chong  16 hours back

                                                    It's weird that clicked on this video andI enjoyed it as I have no interest in airlines or China

                                                    • Cbeddoe19
                                                      Cbeddoe19  17 hours back

                                                      Boeing screwed the pooch big time in multiple ways with the 437 max.

                                                      • Cbeddoe19
                                                        Cbeddoe19  11 hours back

                                                        @Noble Six lol. That was supposed to be a 7. Oops.

                                                      • Noble Six
                                                        Noble Six  11 hours back

                                                        Well. Considering they never made it, yes

                                                    • Waleed Banjar
                                                      Waleed Banjar  17 hours back

                                                      China are the biggest Boeing costumers and yet, your STUPID president are threatening china by cutting American services such as Android, what a stupid move

                                                      • Colonel Chuck
                                                        Colonel Chuck  19 hours back

                                                        Airbus and Boeing are both on the government tit, but those awful, scheming Chinese!

                                                        • Brennen Cox
                                                          Brennen Cox  19 hours back

                                                          9:28 Forced technology transfer... DUH.

                                                          • Brennen Cox
                                                            Brennen Cox  19 hours back

                                                            In the long run, which is the game the CCP is playing, it doesnt matter. China already produces its own scooters and cars. Commercial aircraft are soon on the horizon. So it doesnt matter what Boeing or Airbus do, the CCP will replace them with domestically made aircraft as soon as it can. And just like with all its other markets, outsiders will be pushed out (largely) and domestically produced goods will be given an unfair advantage.

                                                            Edit: Oh, 7:44 this video mentions that.

                                                            • Wade Higgins
                                                              Wade Higgins  19 hours back

                                                              They knew the plane had issues, that's why the May Crash Any Second sensor was installed.

                                                              • Brennen Cox
                                                                Brennen Cox  19 hours back

                                                                1:08 China isn't a continent.

                                                                • TheDimHall
                                                                  TheDimHall  20 hours back

                                                                  Of course China makes rip off planes now too

                                                                  • GLR
                                                                    GLR  22 hours back

                                                                    5:23 ONLY IN USA SAFETY AND LOGIC IS CONSIDERED FLEXING THEIR MUSCLE TO HAVE THE UPPER HAND IN BUSINESS.... EVEN IF EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED TO THAT, THEY STILL HAVE TO PLAY IT SAFE AND NOT KILL PEOPLE WITH THE RUSHED BOEING MACHINE

                                                                    • The Casual Citizen
                                                                      The Casual Citizen  22 hours back

                                                                      Good content about the China aircraft market. I will not fly on a COMAIR aircraft. There is now and never has been quality manufacturing result in a Communist political system.

                                                                      • wizbang68
                                                                        wizbang68  23 hours back

                                                                        :15 odd way to say half a billion passengers, but then put the number of 500,000,000 (500 million) yes they could be considered equals but for those who aren't native english speakers it's confusing to state one number and then display a different wording visually... Although equivalent they aren't the same. 1/2 billion would have been better in the graphic or verbally state 500 million. Also, Anatov was defect in 2017. But if the Comac is produced the way many of low cost items are produced in China. IE: Using substandard materials, not maintaining quality control standards, etc. If you look at a category on Amazon for a product. The low cost versions made in China will often show shorted wiring, cracked casing, etc, etc. So If Comac is to be low cost jet, Ryanair may be expecting more than they receive.

                                                                        • Thom Al
                                                                          Thom Al  1 days back

                                                                          ho hum - sometimes I wish china went back behind whatever it was they opened to open up.

                                                                          • P Daniel
                                                                            P Daniel  1 days back

                                                                            wENDOVER YOU SAY THERE IS NO COMPETITION FOR BOEING AND AIRBUS AND THEN 3 MINS LATER YOU SAY COMAC IS THREATENING BOEING

                                                                            • P Daniel
                                                                              P Daniel  1 days back

                                                                              NO THE FAA IS STILL THE PRE-EMINENT REGULATOR. NOT CHINA

                                                                              • Dan Doris
                                                                                Dan Doris  1 days back

                                                                                I'm curious what Boeing is doing to really fix the problem with the 737 Max. Seems they really should either go back to the original engines designed for the 737, or redesign the 737 to not need the MCAS (the device that caused the crashes). Be even more maddening then the self certification Boeing was allowed to certify their own planes, not sure what has been to address that problem.

                                                                                • 微博:环球商务客

                                                                                  China has big markets but it belongs to its own aircrafts

                                                                                  • tapsulinka
                                                                                    tapsulinka  1 days back

                                                                                    There the biggest point is the Comac. It will be the main airplane to all of those companies who are partly owned by Chinese government or financed by Chinese state owned banks and those companies which are state owned and where China has big enough influence and then those companies who are just looking the cheapest price. It does mean that Comac planes will be the main plane at all Chinese companies and well as several Asian and African companies as well as Ryanair and similar low cost companies. Those will be bigger market than the rest of the companies so after 10-15 years Comac will be the biggest airplane manufacturer, unfortunately.

                                                                                    • mike bob
                                                                                      mike bob  1 days back

                                                                                      this chinese propoganda proudly brought to you by Winnie the Pooh

                                                                                      • MOStein
                                                                                        MOStein  1 days back

                                                                                        No one is going to buy a fucking Chinese plane, are you serious?? China probably wouldn't even buy them lets be real 😂😂😂

                                                                                        • Jason F
                                                                                          Jason F  1 days back

                                                                                          BOEING AND AIRBUS HAVE TAUGHT THE CHINESE TO BUILD AIRCRAFT! WHEN CHINA IS DONE LEARNING TO BUILD JETS, THEY WILL NATIONALIZE THE PLANTS!!! DUHH!!!

                                                                                          • monster FZ09
                                                                                            monster FZ09  1 days back

                                                                                            Coming soon, Boeing: "Made in China"

                                                                                            • Can't B you
                                                                                              Can't B you  1 days back

                                                                                              airbus planes are more comfortable anyway