Jaron Lanier Fixes the Internet | NYT Opinion

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  • Published: 30 September 2019
  • Computer scientist and futurist Jaron Lanier has a plan to fix the internet. This Silicon Valley maverick has a radical vision for how we can all earn money from our data.

    Every time you click on a website -- yes, even that ad right there -- a company is keeping a little bit of your information, and someone somewhere is making money off of it.

    Lanier argues that every bit of data out there belongs to the person who created it, and if anyone should be getting paid for it, it's you. He has a plan to make this happen.

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Comments • 800

  • 『 Vinicius 』
    『 Vinicius 』  2 days back

    I'd like to read the article, is there a free link?

    • Al
      Al  3 days back

      She's the girl from THE LONG GAME part three, isn't she?

      • Lance Emil
        Lance Emil  1 weeks back

        Leave Social Media NOW - protect your data income in the future.
        .
        Got it. Where do I sign up?

        • Sázhe M. Epifanne
          Sázhe M. Epifanne  2 weeks back

          Abrupt Irreversible Climate Change. Near-term Human Extinction.

          • Kevin Ward
            Kevin Ward  2 weeks back

            god bless. when i was 14 and i saw FB for the first time, i knew it was stupid.. guess i was right.

            • Diogo Caetano
              Diogo Caetano  2 weeks back

              What about the law of unintended consequences? What could be some of the loopholes in data dignity and MIDs?

              • le th
                le th  2 weeks back

                I respect his ethics and passion about an ethical democracy, but the US has never...and I do mean never...been a democracy; We have always been a capitalist republic. That's why the pledge of allegiance specifies, "I pledge allegiance to the flag...and to the Republic, for which it stands...".

                I could listen to this guy all day as he sounds like such an ethical, compassionate, deep-thinker and also humble about his intelligence. Yet, I also believe he is a bit naive to think the tech monsters...that are already profiting off our data...are going to give up any of it.

                • le th
                  le th  2 weeks back

                  I respect his ethics and passion about an ethical democracy, but the US has never...and I do mean never...been a democracy; We have always been a capitalist republic. That's why the pledge of allegiance specifies, "I pledge allegiance to the flag...and to the Republic, for which it stands...".

                  I could listen to this guy all day as he sounds like such an ethical, compassionate, deep-thinker and also humble about his intelligence. Yet, I also believe he is a bit naive to think the tech monsters...that are already profiting off our data...are going to give up any of it.

                  • willmattwood
                    willmattwood  2 weeks back

                    The video in a nutshell @10:42 "Value Yes, Manipulation nooooo..." ahaha

                    • Amigo Rigo
                      Amigo Rigo  2 weeks back

                      Wasn’t this video uploaded a long time ago? And people were saying it gave them all dejavu?

                      • Morgotron
                        Morgotron  2 weeks back

                        This is an interesting idea, but wouldn't it obviously create terrible incentive structures for people to, for example, massively over-expose their and their loved ones' data for the sake of earning a few bucks? It seems to me that this could cause as many social problems as our current forms of algorithmic capitalism. Also, I don't see the economic argument for why this system would reduce the problem of ideological echo chambers. Don't these echo chambers arise because people *like* to be shocked and angry about what people they don't identify with are doing? Wouldn't there be a market for this even within the structure that Laron and Weyl are suggesting? I must be misunderstanding something. What am I missing?

                        • Clayton Rego
                          Clayton Rego  2 weeks back

                          This and Free Software and FOSS as well as Open Source movements are the future.

                          • Jacques Laroche
                            Jacques Laroche  2 weeks back

                            I'm sorry, but this is stupid. The solution proposed here is akin to carbon taxes: i.e. "lets use capitalist market forces to fix a problem caused by capitalism and markets!"

                            I don't understand why state funding of services isn't even on the list of possible options. Our taxes should fund things that we want (like newspapers, music, film, parks, water treatment, roads, vacations, etc.) and then we should get them without paying anything on top of that initial funding. These overly complex techno-fetishist "solutions" are tiresome because functioning systems to fund the creation and distribution of common-use goods and services (including physical space) have historical precedence (do yourself a favor and lookup the history of collective funding and ownership in Yugoslavia). And, even if one is irrationally scared of trigger words like "Socialism" or "Communism" all the technology currently exists to equitably transfer resources from individual citizens to producers without the need of middle-men (e.g. blockchain).

                            • Dr Perpetuum
                              Dr Perpetuum  2 weeks back

                              Cool guy but he got some things wrong. Data won't exist in the future, it will be instant knowledge of everything in everyone's head

                              • Dr Perpetuum
                                Dr Perpetuum  2 weeks back

                                12:30 We're here to develop everything

                                • Bullet Ballet
                                  Bullet Ballet  2 weeks back

                                  I had the, um, "pleasure" of watching this guy whine on-stage at a conference in 2012. Lanier's a sad man-baby who throws fits and randomly insults people who dare to stand within five feet of him and mind their own business (yep, saw that happen too). Him talking about reactionary "fear" and "anger" is thus HILARIOUS.

                                  Dude literally played some bagpipe-like instrument during his sweatpants-clad "talk," then later tossed a hissy about his hotel room.

                                  "Thought leadership!"

                                  • Glass Crystal
                                    Glass Crystal  2 weeks back

                                    Great Video. Jaron Lanier is the brilliant mind.

                                    • Ltpwnface
                                      Ltpwnface  2 weeks back

                                      They got rich because of all of us. Our data is our God given human right 😤

                                      • Michael L
                                        Michael L  2 weeks back

                                        i like this guy

                                        • AquatiCGroupGraphics
                                          AquatiCGroupGraphics  2 weeks back

                                          Yeah, this would work much better than basic universal income, and do a lot to curb the use of negative incentives to influence people's behavior online. Mr. Lanier is pretty brilliant, so hopefully something comes of this.

                                          • GuillotinePod
                                            GuillotinePod  2 weeks back

                                            I want to work with this guy

                                            • Revolutionary Thinking
                                              Revolutionary Thinking  2 weeks back

                                              I like where this is going!

                                              • SOVEREIGN \-_-/
                                                SOVEREIGN \-_-/  2 weeks back

                                                I hope this man takes his weight & health seriously & remains with the living fighting RACISM WHITENESS WHITE SUPREMACY.

                                                SB\-_-/ COINTELPRO

                                                • The Bronx Pops !
                                                  The Bronx Pops !  2 weeks back

                                                  Yang , that’s how it works .

                                                  • Lisa Parrott
                                                    Lisa Parrott  3 weeks back

                                                    This guy is not wearing any lab PPE

                                                    • J Mac
                                                      J Mac  3 weeks back

                                                      Good idea. BUT someone is paying all of this extra cost for the data. If today the company has systems to collect this data and they don't pay a third party then in this future they'd be paying you which is a huge expense they didn't have before. So how do they pay for this? Everyone raises their prices to pass the cost on to you and you ultimately end up paying the same or more in the market completely offsetting any gains.

                                                      How about we just choose not to use the services that take your data and then you aren't exposed to poor algorithms and manipulation in the first place?

                                                      • Adam S
                                                        Adam S  3 weeks back

                                                        Yes. This can happen with leadership like ANDREW YANG!!!!

                                                        • Toxinomist
                                                          Toxinomist  3 weeks back

                                                          Data is not liquid it s sandy. The solution already exists. It called the constitution. Apply the laws that protect privacy.

                                                          • ThaRealERAQ
                                                            ThaRealERAQ  3 weeks back

                                                            Im not worry about ads on the internet. Im worried about nazis on the internet moving into the whitehouse

                                                            • Whizper2me
                                                              Whizper2me  3 weeks back

                                                              So.... from bad to worse?

                                                              • Draxtor
                                                                Draxtor  3 weeks back

                                                                Love it and Jaron's last book is a quick and concise read that should be mandatory for everyone! But one thing that irks me: socialism does NOT mean "everything is free". The core of a socialist ethos is FAIR pay and an equitable society were certain core services are subjected to market pressures. I repeat: under socialism people would NOT WORK FOR FREE = they would get paid fairly for their contribution and services. LOVE YOU JARON!!!

                                                                • This is why I love the internet,

                                                                  When something is ‘free,’ you’re the product.

                                                                  • le th
                                                                    le th  2 weeks back

                                                                    I've been saying this since 2000. If you're not paying for something that cost someone else money to create, they are mining your data like a psychopath.

                                                                • always_lookin_up
                                                                  always_lookin_up  3 weeks back

                                                                  20k annually?! Yo Yang, we gotta get Jaron in the conversation

                                                                  • Legal Tender
                                                                    Legal Tender  3 weeks back

                                                                    let's not question capitalism At Allll... -_-

                                                                    • nochrist _ nolife
                                                                      nochrist _ nolife  3 weeks back

                                                                      YangGang 2020

                                                                      • John Russell
                                                                        John Russell  3 weeks back

                                                                        Yes yes yes!!

                                                                        • chinedu achimalo
                                                                          chinedu achimalo  3 weeks back

                                                                          First World Problem!!!

                                                                          • ye77a
                                                                            ye77a  3 weeks back

                                                                            yes

                                                                            • Tree Walker
                                                                              Tree Walker  3 weeks back

                                                                              You changed the title!! It was originally "Why You Should Be Getting Paid for Your Data"! The only reason I can think for you changing the title to this much less interesting one is because the original title was attracting too many Yang Gangers because ANDREW YANG IS ALL ABOUT THiS! DATA PROPERTY RIGHTS!!!

                                                                              • mike .D
                                                                                mike .D  3 weeks back

                                                                                Pity this guy looks like tree roots, he shouldn’t be involved in anyone’s future least of all his !

                                                                                • Alejandra Suárez
                                                                                  Alejandra Suárez  3 weeks back

                                                                                  WTF, unless there's a mass exodus to Thor and open source OS, this is unenviable AF

                                                                                  • Nick Ritter
                                                                                    Nick Ritter  3 weeks back

                                                                                    Not enough views on this...

                                                                                    • Lucas Sonny
                                                                                      Lucas Sonny  3 weeks back

                                                                                      ''That culture is sending a message of Human Obsolescence''.

                                                                                      • what the
                                                                                        what the  3 weeks back

                                                                                        Think I'll go and find a video of this guy talking without all the clips and music. Trying to be sold an idea by triggering my emotions is off putting.

                                                                                        • CarbonQuellist
                                                                                          CarbonQuellist  3 weeks back

                                                                                          This is why I use a number of different script blockers on my browser. You'll be surprised at the amount of trackers Google and Facebook has on even the most inconspicuous of sites. Blocked.

                                                                                          • CarbonQuellist
                                                                                            CarbonQuellist  3 weeks back

                                                                                            *If it's free, you are the product, baby~!*

                                                                                            • Kowsar Khan
                                                                                              Kowsar Khan  3 weeks back

                                                                                              mark zuk is eating my lunch

                                                                                              • Доминик
                                                                                                Доминик  3 weeks back

                                                                                                get a haircut