Jaron Lanier: Why Facebook Isn't Free

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  • Nurdin Kühnel
    Nurdin Kühnel  2 months back

    Facebook is the new cancer of the 21st century. Same applies for literally any other social media and search company.

    • Alessandro Fuselli
      Alessandro Fuselli  6 months back

      Thank god you don’t get a mortgage based on your facebook reputation. That’s China.

      • Amelia Eichel
        Amelia Eichel  8 months back

        I take issue with his pro-capitalist stance. Facebook as a tool for further alienation is dangerous.

        • Doctor J
          Doctor J  10 months back

          Great points

          • Fran Sinclair
            Fran Sinclair  1 years back

            i love this guy so much! i always had so many questions about all these things and finally there is someone who answers them!

            • foued bouaita
              foued bouaita  1 years back

              I admire this man...

              • Barry Manilowa
                Barry Manilowa  1 years back

                I love his sardonic humor.

                • Matt Grillz
                  Matt Grillz  1 years back

                  Hey Jon, whens the next korn album coming out?

                  • Where It Counts
                    Where It Counts  2 years back

                    Here from the future, fresh off the Facebook Market page...

                    • Matthew Connolly
                      Matthew Connolly  2 years back

                      what's great about this is he's talking about the future of the ERC-20 platform without naming it. Having value on the internet is coming.

                      • Doodle Doo
                        Doodle Doo  2 years back

                        he looks like someone from a band.

                        • Gregory Thompson
                          Gregory Thompson  2 years back

                          Everyone likes to think they know whats best for the world hahahhaa

                          • Jordan Jackson
                            Jordan Jackson  2 years back

                            he is talking about the economic incentives on the blockchain

                            • Lucas Santoro
                              Lucas Santoro  2 years back

                              Well, I truly belive the tendency is for jobs to disappear and machines to do all the work. It's silly to try to go the other way arround. The real problem relies on income distribution and social equality.

                              • CsoSly
                                CsoSly  2 years back

                                I love hearing Jaron's perspective. I suspect many of these nasty comments are bot accounts.

                                • tuscanyiscol Tuscanyiscol

                                  This is so wrong it hurts

                                  • Omar Olivares
                                    Omar Olivares  3 years back

                                    please study Charles Eiseinstein and come back to this video

                                    • Ryan Doede
                                      Ryan Doede  3 years back

                                      Alright, the incompetence in the comments is appalling. (I don't care about how he looks, don't be so shallow. I'd like to discuss the ideas he is talking about). If you didn't understand, let me try to take a stab at summing it up in few words. Walmart tried to be as efficient as it could, reducing costs of paying people, having fewer workers. It seems nice for them in terms of making more profit. But, by doing these things, customers had less money because they were not making money FROM Walmart because WalMart wasn't hiring them or helping customers make some bank. Because customers were not making money, they were not able to , as customers, give WalMart more revenue. Facebook really doesn't need that many employees, and few customers are making money from it. Facebook isn't free because people are not making money when they could be. If someone feels that this understanding is wrong, please reply, I'd like to discuss and learn.

                                      • name name
                                        name name  3 years back

                                        And that's why citizen salary makes sense

                                        • Feuerbringer
                                          Feuerbringer  3 years back

                                          tl;dr: Money does not control the world. Exploiting human desires in subtle and shady ways controls the world.

                                          • fredy gump
                                            fredy gump  3 years back

                                            It sounds like this guy is trying to exploit everything that has not yet been exploited? Monetizing people's experience on facebook leads to professional facebook users...

                                        • oldones59
                                          oldones59  3 years back

                                          Thanks for your candor, Mr. Lanier.

                                          • Deluke22
                                            Deluke22  3 years back

                                            2016-Screw taxi drivers we got smart cars now!

                                            • Feed The Wolves UK
                                              Feed The Wolves UK  4 years back

                                              looks like a fucking troll on magic mushrooms, just wash your hair mate.....

                                              • oli_kester
                                                oli_kester  4 years back

                                                "preserve capitalism" nonononono

                                              • rajarr70
                                                rajarr70  4 years back

                                                this guy seriously needs to shave the beard, remove the dreads, lose alot of weight & get better sleep, and he would probably look normal..

                                              • metamorphosis
                                                metamorphosis  4 years back

                                                This is Ello.co

                                                • Josh Josh
                                                  Josh Josh  4 years back

                                                  Lol he looks like a druggie.lmfao!

                                                  • Tiberius Power
                                                    Tiberius Power  4 years back

                                                    Is he an albino black person?

                                                    • Takashi Kojima
                                                      Takashi Kojima  4 years back

                                                      i recommend that u type in 'ashkenazi jaron lanier' in google search :D Ashkenzi jews come from this place Khazar I think its called.. and his name is on the list.. 

                                                    • Rich Droid
                                                      Rich Droid  4 years back

                                                      how do you know, he is ashkenazi specifically?

                                                    • Takashi Kojima
                                                      Takashi Kojima  4 years back

                                                      +Tiberius Power He is Ashkenazi Jew. Growing ur dreads out can make any any white person look a little 'black' or atleast mixed race i suppose

                                                  • arkoraa
                                                    arkoraa  4 years back

                                                    This guy has no idea how facebook operates

                                                    • Philumptuous
                                                      Philumptuous  3 years back

                                                      This is also 4 years old

                                                    • roger
                                                      roger  4 years back

                                                      this guy is computer scientists...i think he knows

                                                  • Jonny Figgis
                                                    Jonny Figgis  4 years back

                                                    This doesn't make sense in 2015 especially after Facebook just released their 3rd Quarter accounts showing huge increase in revenue. They are monetizing Facebook (much to the delight of Wall Street) as it just can't exist for free. Organic reach on posts has dramatically decreased so you have to pay to reach more people. This is a good thing as you can't have everything for free as it's not sustainable, as Jaron Lanier says.

                                                    • Lucian Pană
                                                      Lucian Pană  4 years back

                                                      you don't deserve your dreadlocks.

                                                      • Charlie Newman
                                                        Charlie Newman  3 years back

                                                        Do you understand what he said?
                                                        If so, why bother tossing a worthless snark?
                                                        If not, try.

                                                      • oldones59
                                                        oldones59  3 years back

                                                        Why do you make snide comments about something or someone you disagree with, or possibly don't understand? Listen to what he's saying. Peace.

                                                      • alin pop
                                                        alin pop  4 years back

                                                        +Lucian Pană for sure he does

                                                      • 𝔹𝔸𝕄𝔹✪
                                                        𝔹𝔸𝕄𝔹✪  4 years back

                                                        +Lucian Pană lol

                                                    • shucksful
                                                      shucksful  4 years back

                                                      Makes _cents_ to me....

                                                      • dookie juju
                                                        dookie juju  4 years back

                                                        is it just me or does dred locks look fucking nasty

                                                      • slesperado
                                                        slesperado  4 years back

                                                        If people are dependent on Facebook posts to pay their mortgages, then there is something wrong with those particular people.

                                                        • tentimetex
                                                          tentimetex  4 years back

                                                          Noooo, the other way around!
                                                           The use of platforms like Facebook is destroying jobs. So people will have to be dependent on Facebook to pay their mortgages because there will not be any other jobs. Yes we get to create profiles for free and post pictures for free, great. But that does not help us pay the rent or raise kids. We must stop expecting information, music, films, data, anything digital always for free because there will not be a digital economy to live in.

                                                        • slesperado
                                                          slesperado  4 years back

                                                          +tentimetex In other words, Facebook should start charging people to have personal Facebook profiles. Because why not? "We cannot expect everything for free".

                                                        • tentimetex
                                                          tentimetex  4 years back

                                                          +slesperado your comment has nothing to do with the topic. He`s saying that we cannot expect everything for free, because its not sustainable: it creates huge inequality and concentrations of wealth and power while destroying the middle class and jobs. Facebook and all the other platforms should be paying us for our content, videos, data and everything else we create, in order to redistribute some of the huge value they are hoarding, back to the people, for ex, with microtransactions

                                                      • Clemdane
                                                        Clemdane  5 years back

                                                        It was very hard to overcome my prejudice against how he looks in order to liaten to him. Having done so I don't think it was worth it.

                                                        • Ash Wiggins
                                                          Ash Wiggins  5 years back

                                                          Facebook is a parasite on humanity.... unto itself it does not exist..... Zuckerberg... the human virus!

                                                          • GretschDog
                                                            GretschDog  1 years back

                                                            ....who stole the idea from schoolmates through lies and deception. Just like Steve Jobs...

                                                        • Mentes Livres
                                                          Mentes Livres  5 years back

                                                          Facebook is dead

                                                          • criztu
                                                            criztu  5 years back

                                                             Karl Marx, dude... the development of technology brings an abundance of goods, forcing everybody to give stuff for free, thence the markets crash, and money, banks, states, cease to exist. 
                                                             We are progressing towards a Communist economy, where the basic needs - food, shelter, energy, transportation, health, socialization, etc. are provided free of charge, and only advanced needs - seeing Rihanna's undies in concert, or having a personal gym trainer, or custom painting your car, or drinking a 1961 wine with french refined cuisine, will cost money. 
                                                             That's already happening, every friday night. If you wanna party inside Pacha Disco Ibiza, you have to pay monies. If you can't pay to go to Pacha, there's tons of discos, where you can party with girls just as poor as you are, free of charge. Then you go home crying. But you partied for free!
                                                             Or you could take a look at Valve's Dota 2, where playing is free to play, yet they have something like $3 million prize pools for their championships.

                                                             The grim conclusion is, that the mofos in power now, are forced to delay the development of technology, to maintain their power. 

                                                            • criztu
                                                              criztu  5 years back

                                                              @Dora Donas Yes, the corporations run free platforms to make profit. But what you should observe, is that this is the dictatorship of the proletariat. The proletariat doesn't pay for the stuff, for youtube entertainment, for facebook socialization, for pirated videogames, pirated movies, apps, games, music, books, etc.. That's class warfare. Technology enables the proletarians to destroy the oppressing class - the burgeoisie. This is what Marx tells us, even though he couldn't know how and with what technology precisely.
                                                               Marx explains us that the burgeoisie developed from the oppressed class of feudalism. Today, nobles and kings still exist, but their existence depends on the burgeoisie. Tomorrow, the burgeoisie's existence will depend on the proletariat. 

                                                               Today the technology enables you to watch youtube for free, but doesn't enable you to eat for free. Within 100 years, technology will enable you to eat for free, travel for free, build a house for free, dress for free. Or very cheap. Say, China successfully automatizes its factories with millions of robots. It will cause bigger and bigger financial crises. 
                                                               Eventually, if you understand Marx, the burgeoisie (the former serfs of the feudal nobility) will lose their power, the capital will collapse, and the proletariat will rule. 

                                                               IMO, the proletariat will become the new oppressing class, unlike Marx' ideal of a classless society. I'm really curios of the new oppressed class, the serfs of the proletariat. 

                                                            • no no
                                                              no no  5 years back

                                                              The thing about Dota 2 though is that Valve are using it as a free platform in-which to monetize more things. People have been making good money for several years now making cosmetic items, and even more people have made some kind of money just trading those items. 

                                                              The platform itself is free, but they are using it to incentivize other avenues of digital monetization, unlike say League of Legends. 

                                                          • ariesred777
                                                            ariesred777  5 years back

                                                            do we need another Walmart?No thanks!

                                                            • Taylor Cardillo
                                                              Taylor Cardillo  5 years back

                                                              This guy knows whats up!

                                                              • PotentialEn3rgy
                                                                PotentialEn3rgy  5 years back

                                                                small/medium think

                                                                • Dylan Nicholas
                                                                  Dylan Nicholas  5 years back

                                                                  He made a site to combat facebook called tsu check it out https://www.tsu.co/Dylannicholas

                                                                  • Ryan Conley
                                                                    Ryan Conley  5 years back

                                                                    Who thinks that #Facebook is really free? Try to convince me below. I can't wait to hear your answers! Watch this and you will think differently about this "free" Facebook platform! #JaronLanier is the CEO of #Tsu where everyone is migrating to NOW! http://www.staged.com/video?v=!5Szpb

                                                                    • Joseph Young
                                                                      Joseph Young  5 years back

                                                                      As soon as a single penny comes out of my pocket im done with what ever website caused it.

                                                                      • Andrew Wilson
                                                                        Andrew Wilson  5 years back

                                                                        Best solution I have heard.

                                                                        • boudebond
                                                                          boudebond  5 years back

                                                                          Just do like me and never use Facebook.

                                                                          • Brian Clark
                                                                            Brian Clark  5 years back

                                                                            what about the those who make horse shoes? didn't cabbies put them out of business? its called creative destruction. without we would all be in caves. 

                                                                            • Sn0wy147
                                                                              Sn0wy147  5 years back

                                                                              I can understand his comments about Facebook, but what about another free technology, like Youtube? Youtube is free, and yet some of its users have become (somewhat) wealthy throught advertising. The only way I can think of that would be practical for Facebook users to make money would be a similar system, where popular users can opt-in to have ads posted on their wall. That way, both Facebook and the user can make money. Can anyone think of any other ways?